I did not find any cloopers, or fish for that matter, where I expected to find cloopers. I moved to check out a new spot on mud lake. TONS of carp everywhere with a very silty bottom that marks feeding fish. I managed one about 28 inches on the carp killer (tan nymph variant). She was a hard driver and took me into my backing twice. She was not very healthy though, she had red legions all over her body, I did not touch her or the water I was fishing, back to the bench, I am out of carp killers. chummed with sweet corn and raspberry muffins